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Thanks to John and Kathleen who turned up some information about my grandfather Thomas Thirlwell after discharge through injury from the army in 1916, there is an address for him at 2, Adolphus Place. The 1911 census shows this to be next door to the pub at No. 1, the Braddyll Arms, both properties occupied by the Swan family. Does anyone have access to a Kelly's or other directory for 1915-1917 period that shows who is in No. 2 at this time. That could mean a directory dated 1918 or 1919 given the delays in publication. The 1916/1917 electoral roll entry, if there was one for this year, for the address would also be of interest.
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Nichol Swan was landlord of the Northumberland Arms in the 1914 Kelly's. That was at 27 South Railway St. There are no private citizens listed by the name of Swan. Kathleen informs me that you can get Kelly's on line so that could be worth a try.
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Thanks John. I tried one site, historicaldirectories, but that didn't go past the 19th century. I'm particularly interested in the Adolphus Place address since that was where my grandfather, Thomas Thirlwell, was living according to the correspondence you found for me in the archive.
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Ian, in the Trade Directories the Braddyll is listed as being in Adolphus Place until the 1873 and later entries place it in Adolphus Street (no number) until 1910 when it appears as 68 Adolphus Street. This could have been the residential address of the landlord (G Swan) but is highly unlikely as in seven directories between 1910 and 1938 it is listed as No 68 under 5 different landlords.
If this change of address was repeated elsewhere your 2 Adolphus Place could have become 67 Adolphus Street in some records.
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Dave,
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In the 1911 census there are 4 properties listed in Adolphus Place:
No. 1 - George Swan & family; working brewer and inn keeper
No. 2 - John Nicholl Swan & family; public house manager

In the enumerator's list page 2, no.1 is described as a public house, Braddyll Arms; no. 2 is described as a private house, brewery!

Head of house in No 3 is surname Lynn and No. 4 is Langford.

Adolphus Place schedule numbers were 46 to 49. Earlier schedule numbers (26 to 45) were for South Terrace, Green Street, Back Francis Street then Green Street again. Schedule 50 was No. 2 Francis Street, a private house and shop.

The next page shown in the enumerator's list is page 11, and has Adolphus Street starting with schedule no. 246, house number 50. Pages 3 to 10 are out of order in the enumerator's list book - I thought initially they were missing.

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Ian, a couple of shots of Adolphus Place, the aerial in 1928 and the other shortly before demolition in 1965.
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Thanks Dave. The later photo, I take it, shows the Braddyll Arms and No. 2 Adolphus Place, as in the same photo in the Seaham Pub Gallery. This block, with the three distinctive chimney stacks, can be matched to the block in the earlier photo. Could you send me copies of the photos, or at least the earlier one, which shows the area much as it may have been when my grandfather was living there.
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