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John&Kathleen
23-04-2009, 08:08 pm
We would like to have a thread dedicated to Seaham and it's people during the period of the Great War. It would be dedicated to all of the people from Seaham who served or supported the war effort in any capacity, i.e. munitions workers, servicemen, mercantile marine, nurses, coast guards, scouts on coastal wach, entertainers, womans legion, fund raisers, providing comforts for the troops in fact anyone who provided any kind of service towards the war effort etc. Please post your questions or family information here. We will try to provide you with information if we can. We need YOUR HELP. Please let us know any family history or anecdotes you have so that we can record it for future generations. We have one purpose. They Will be Remembered.
John & Kathleen

Graeme Lacey
23-04-2009, 08:50 pm
Hello John and Kathleen, Thought I would send you a message from from the new forum as "the Boss" thinks it would be better. This is such a fantastic site I'll help in every way I can. If you have any information about Joseph Tizard Snr and Joseph Tizard Jnr in the First World War, I would be absolutely delighted to receive it no matter how minimal. The same for Ben Lacey; you say that there are three Laceys from Seaham Harbour in the records. I really appreciate what you are doing. Kind regards, Graeme

John&Kathleen
26-04-2009, 07:12 am
OK Graeme here is the Tizard information. We're testing this out so hope it works.
Regards
John & Kathleen

+*Tizard (Tyzard) Joseph Junior: Lance Corporal 14883 6th Yorks
Address: 11 School Street New Seaham
Commemorated:
The Marquess of Londonderry Roll of Honour for Seaham Colliery includes the name Tizard J. Jun.
Medal Index:
1915 Star – entry Balkans 14.7.15: British War: Medal Victory Medal:
Discharged: Awarded Siver Wound Badge
1891 Census Seaham Colliery:
Tyzard 9 Post Office Street
Robert Head Age 18 Colliery Banksman Born New Seaham
Isabella Mother Widow Age 59 Born Wallsend
Joseph W. Button Nephew Age 11 Born Seaham Harbour
Joseph Tyzard Brother Married Age 21 Engine Fireman Born Seaham Harbour – Father of J T Junior
Mary Tizard Sister-in-law Age 22 Born Seaham Harbour
Isabella Tizard Niece Age 1 Born New Seaham
Elizabeth Tizard Niece Age 5 months Born New Seaham
1901 Census Easington District: (RG13/4690 – Folio 147 – Page 19)
Tyzard 29 Frances Street Seaham HarbourNo. 944.10.
Joseph Head Married Age 31 Colliery Fireman Born Seaham Harbour
Mary Wife Married Age 32 Born Seaham Harbour
Isabella Daughter Age 12 Born Seaham Colliery
Elizabeth Daughter Age 10 Born Seaham Colliery
Joseph Son Age 8 Born Seaham Colliery
Jane Daughter Age 6 Born South Shields
Margaret Daughter Age 2 Born Gateshead
Mary Daughter Age 3 months Born Seaham Harbour
1901 Census Easington District: (RG13/4690 – Folio 59 – Page 2)
Richardson 16 Henry Street Seaham Harbour No. 380.10
Jane Head Widow Age 67 Born Stalbton (?) Cumbria
Sarah Daughter Age 22 Dressmaker Born Seaham Harbour
Phoebe Reed Granddaughter Age 15 Born Seaham Harbour
Emmanuel Reed Grandson Age11 Born Seaham Harbour
Rachel Reed Granddaughter Age 9 Born Hetton Co. Durham
Edith Reed Granddaughter Age 7 Born Hetton Co. Durham – wife of JT
Nora Reed Granddaughter Age 4 Born Hetton Co. Durham
Marriage: Easington District No. 29407.1
Location: New Seaham Church: Christ Church Religion: Anglican Date: 24.9.21.
Joseph Tizard son of Joseph Tizard to Edith Reed daughter of William Reed (deceased)
The Suvla Bay Landing; W E 10.9.15.
Lance Corporal Joseph Tizard of the 6th Btn. Yorkshire Regiment, whose parents reside at 11 School Street New Seaham, writing from hospital at Southampton, gives some interesting glimpses of the Suvla Bay Landing. He says:-
“We went into action on 6th August. We left – Island about 6pm and made our way to Suvla Bay. We just reached the beach when we were met by a rain of bullets. I may tell you that the Yorks had the honour of making the first charge. When we heard the bullets whizzing we all dropped flat until we got the order to advance. We were under heavy rifle fire all the time but our lads seemed to be eager for it and gave a good account of themselves. At the first charge we forced the Turks to retire. We went on attacking until about noon on the Saturday. I think the Turks’ big guns are very poor shots. for while the 10th Division were coming up to relieve us they were under fire the whole time but never lost a man. We advanced about 2 ˝ miles before it broke daylight. We were attacking all day on Sunday and advanced a little. Between Sunday night and Monday morning the Turks’ snipers were very busy and kept hitting a man here and there. For three solid hours we lay on the ground, heads pressed down, and if any of us had just shown our heads we would have been hit. The Turks are rotten shots, but their snipers are deadly and very cunning. Two of the snipers who were killed had our tunics and helmets on. After safely getting through an open space and I had just dropped into cover a bullet grazed my cheek and brought blood. It was nothing but about five minutes later another bullet hit me in the leg and I was put out of action. I was taken down to the beach and put on a hospital ship.” SWN
The Suvla Bay Landing;
The words of Lance Corporal Joseph Tizard, re the Suvla Bay Landings, are fascinating. It’s all extraordinarily gung ho! Quite the opposite to what you get from the official war history, where it is clear that the Battalion suffered incredible losses. For instance, all the officers who landed with the Battalion were either killed or wounded in the first fourteen days. The disembarking strength of the Battalion was twenty-five officers and 750 other ranks. By the 22nd of August the Battalion was down to only 285 men and no officers. Ed Nicholl YRMW
Londonderry Papers (Malcolm Dillon Correspondence) DCRO
August 26th 1915
Dear Lady Londonderry,
The following is a candidate for admittance to Seaham Hall Convalescent Hospital:-
Lance Corporal J. Tizard 14883 6th Yorkshire Regiment.
He is now in the Highfield Hall Hospital Southampton. He worked at Seaham Colliery.
Believe me your Ladyship’s faithfully
Malcolm Dillon
The Honourable the Marchioness of Londonderry
Londonderry House
D/LO/C/ 277/83(120)
The Green Howards Museum:
The Green Howards Museum has a spread sheet which lists every occurrence of a name in the Green Howards Gazette for the First World War. They were kind enough to let me have a copy of this. (over 30,000 entries !). From this spreadsheet:-
L/Cpl J. Tizard 14883 of 6th Btn was reported wounded in the October 1915 issue of the Gazette (though this won’t be the date of wounding).
Cpl J. Tizard 14883 was next reported wounded in December 1916
Lance Corporal J.H. Tizard 33994 was reported missing in June 1918 and then as a POW in November 1918.
I would imagine these two men are the same person. The change in regimental number would, presumably, have come about as he was transferred to a different Battalion. (my presumption may not be correct)
Although I have a list of all the Yorkshire Regiment POW’s, with their data, unfortunately the name Tizard does not appear on this list Ed Nichol YRMW
*NB The October 1918 Absent Voters List for Seaham Colliery includes the following entry:-
No. 3568 Tizard Joseph 11 School Street 636615 Private RAMC
This could be Joseph Junior who transferred to the RAMC from 6th Yorks or his father J Tizard Senior.
P&D
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+*Tizard (Tyzard) Joseph Senior: Private 536615 RAMC (formerly 861 Rifle Brigade)
Address: 11 School Street Seaham Colliery
Commemorated:
The Marquess of Londonderry Roll of Honour for Seaham Colliery includes the name Tizard J. Sen.
Medal Index:
British War Medal: Victory Medal
1891 Census Seaham Colliery:
Tyzard 9 Post Office Street
Robert Head Age 18 Colliery Banksman Born New Seaham
Isabella Mother Widow Age 59 Born Wallsend
Joseph W. Button Nephew Age 11 Born Seaham Harbour
Joseph Tyzard Brother Married Age 21 Engine Fireman Born Seaham Harbour
Mary Tizard Sister-in-law Age 22 Born Seaham Harbour
Isabella Tizard Niece Age 1 Born New Seaham
Elizabeth Tizard Niece Age 5 months Born New Seaham
1901 Census Easington District: (RG13/4690 – Folio 147 – Page 19)
Tyzard 29 Frances Street No. 944.10.
Joseph Head Married Age 31 Colliery Fireman Born Seaham Harbour
Mary Wife Married Age 32 Born Seaham Harbour
Isabella Daughter Age 12 Born Seaham Colliery
Elizabeth Daughter Age 10 Born Seaham Colliery
Joseph Son Age 8 Born Seaham Colliery
Jane Daughter Age 6 Born South Shields
Margaret Daughter Age 2 Born Gateshead
Mary Daughter Age 3 months Born Seaham Harbour
Commemorated:
The Marquess of Londonderry Roll of Honour for Seaham Colliery includes the names Tizard J Junior and Tizard J. Senior
*NB The October 1918 Absent Voters List for Seaham Colliery includes the following entry:-
No. 3568 Tizard Joseph 11 School Street 536615 Private RAMC
This could be Joseph Junior who transferred to the RAMC from 6th Yorks or his father J Tizard Senior. As more information has become available it seems fairly certain that Joseph Tizard Senior was a member of the RAMC.
Additional Information:
Born Seaham Harbour (a) 1870
Father of Joseph Junior – see above
Father of Mary – see Women’s index

John&Kathleen
26-04-2009, 07:26 am
And here is the other side of the family Graeme.
We are also working on a reply for Ian T on the Thirwell lads, this may take a little while to sort out as Ian has sent us a lot to go on.
Regards
John & Kathleen

+Lacey Benjamin: Private M2/270128 ASC
Address: 7 Cornish Street Seaham Colliery
AVL:
October 1918 Seaham Colliery no. 3446
Spring 1919 Seaham Colliery no. 3446
Autumn 1919 Seaham Colliery no. 459(3446)
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+Lacey George William: Private 24/1162D 1st TI (24th NF) - later 573133 Sergeant 957 EAGG Co
Enlisted: 28.10.14.*
Address: 7 Mount Stewart Street Dawdon Colliery**
Commemorated:
The Marquess of Londonderry Roll of Honour for Dawdon Colliery includes the name Lacey W.
The Tyneside Irish: 30.10.14.
Recruiting Meeting at Seaham
On Wednesday night a meeting in furtherance of recruiting for the Tyneside Irish Battalion was held at the Catholic Hall, Londonderry Road. Father M. Haggarty presided, supported by Messrs N. Grattan-Doyle and P. O’Rourke (Newcastle). Malcolm Dillon, Luke G. Dillon, D. Sharvin, P. Duffy and others. There was a large attendance.
The Chairman mentioned that the Roman Catholic population of Seaham Harbour had supplied 180 men to the various forces of the Empire since the war broke out and they had a list of these men on the church door. There had been a steady stream of their people going to serve King and Country. (Applause)
Mr O’Rourke explained the scheme of the Tyneside Irish Battalion and emphasised the need of men. In this country one could please himself whether he joined the army or not, and was not dragooned into it, but the man who was able and free to join, and did not do so, was not only not doing his duty, but was rendering great service to the enemy. It was the most just and holy war on our part that it was possible to engage in, and he called upon all who could serve to serve. (Applause)
Mr N. Grattan-Doyle in an eloquent and moving speech said that England at the present juncture was the country to supply the men which were necessary to turn the scale. We had nine millions of men of the required ages, and he had no doubt that the men would come forward. We wanted them now. One man now was worth six men six months hence. We must see this fight though to a finish. We wanted 1,200,000 men in the fighting line, and another million in reserve in this country, because when the terms of peace came to be considered the reserve forces behind the statesmen and diplomatists played a very important part, and we must be prepared. He had no doubt that Irishmen now, as always, would do their duty. (Applause)
Mr Luke G. Dillon, in proposing a vote of thanks to the speakers, said he did so with great pleasure as they had pointed out the path of patriotic duty, a path which he was sure they would all follow. It was a path which led to the front where the heroic blood of the various parts of our great empire was again commingled (sic) in the same stream on the same field in defence of hearth and home, in the cause of honour and liberty. He knew Irishmen were not made of the stuff which would quietly submit to the brutal, insolent arrogance of the German mailed fist. The Kaiser had said that he did not want war, that the sword had been thrust into the hands of his soldiers. What we hoped to see was the sword thrust into other parts of their bodies by the athletic arms of the Irish Brigade. Being a Dillon the name “Irish Brigade” naturally suggested to his mind many deeds of valour, many glorious memories. Unfortunately, owing the convitions (sic) which then existed the old Irish Brigade (1690-1790) fought against England, but today thank God, this was all changed. To-day we stood shoulder to shoulder a united kingdom under the same grand old flag and as such we stood invincible.
Mr Malcolm Dillon also contributed a short but stirring speech, and the chairman mentioned that Mr Malcolm Dillon had three sons at the front.
AVL:
October 1918 Seaham Harbour
7 Mount Stewart Street Dawdon Colliery
No. 4719 Lacey George William 573133 Sergeant 957 EAGG Co
No. 4720 Lacey William 1162 24th NF DLEPE
Additional Information:
Wounded July 1916 July 1917 – LSGT SHTI
*NB On this date the Tyneside Irish held a recruiting meeting at Seaham Harbour. (see above)
**NB In 1914 Owen Duffy, a Sergeant in the 1st TI (24th NF), lived at this address
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+Lacy Robert Henry: 801750 256th Brigade 51st Ammunition Column A Battery RFA
Address; 6 Adolphus Street Seaham Harbour
AVL:
October 1918 Seaham Harbour no. 3630
Spring 1919 Seaham Harbour no. 3630

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+Lacey William: 1162 24th NF DLEPE
Address: 7 Mount Stewart Street Dawdon Colliery
Commemorated:
The Marquess of Londonderry Roll of Honour for Dawdon Colliery includes the name Lacey W.
AVL:
October 1918 Seaham Harbour
7 Mount Stewart Street Dawdon Colliery
No. 4719 Lacey George William 573133 Sergeant 957 EAGG Co
No. 4720 Lacey William 1162 24th NF DLEPE
Spring 1919 Seaham Harbour no. 4720
Autumn 1919 Seaham Harbour no. 678(4720)

Graeme Lacey
26-04-2009, 09:42 am
I am absolutely amazed at the informaton you have been able to give. Saying thank you just doesn't seem enough.
Reading about Joseph Tizard at Suva Bay really brought the courage and bravery of WWI soldiers very close to home.
By the end of today your information will be with two of Jos Tizard's (Snr)grandaughters, including my Mum, and a number of other Tizard and Lacey decendants who have an interest in their family.
Thank you John and Kathleen, I think what you are doing is absolutely fantastic.
Kind regards
Graeme

John&Kathleen
26-04-2009, 04:45 pm
Our pleasure.
Regards
J&K

Keith
04-05-2009, 12:20 am
When posting a lot of text like this please let me know if you have any problems as i may need to increase the maximum limit.:D

OK Graeme here is the Tizard information. We're testing this out so hope it works.
Regards
John & Kathleen

+*Tizard (Tyzard) Joseph Junior: Lance Corporal 14883 6th Yorks
Address: 11 School Street New Seaham
Commemorated:
The Marquess of Londonderry Roll of Honour for Seaham Colliery includes the name Tizard J. Jun.
Medal Index:
1915 Star – entry Balkans 14.7.15: British War: Medal Victory Medal:
Discharged: Awarded Siver Wound Badge
1891 Census Seaham Colliery:
Tyzard 9 Post Office Street
Robert Head Age 18 Colliery Banksman Born New Seaham
Isabella Mother Widow Age 59 Born Wallsend
Joseph W. Button Nephew Age 11 Born Seaham Harbour
Joseph Tyzard Brother Married Age 21 Engine Fireman Born Seaham Harbour – Father of J T Junior
Mary Tizard Sister-in-law Age 22 Born Seaham Harbour
Isabella Tizard Niece Age 1 Born New Seaham
Elizabeth Tizard Niece Age 5 months Born New Seaham
1901 Census Easington District: (RG13/4690 – Folio 147 – Page 19)
Tyzard 29 Frances Street Seaham HarbourNo. 944.10.
Joseph Head Married Age 31 Colliery Fireman Born Seaham Harbour
Mary Wife Married Age 32 Born Seaham Harbour
Isabella Daughter Age 12 Born Seaham Colliery
Elizabeth Daughter Age 10 Born Seaham Colliery
Joseph Son Age 8 Born Seaham Colliery
Jane Daughter Age 6 Born South Shields
Margaret Daughter Age 2 Born Gateshead
Mary Daughter Age 3 months Born Seaham Harbour
1901 Census Easington District: (RG13/4690 – Folio 59 – Page 2)
Richardson 16 Henry Street Seaham Harbour No. 380.10
Jane Head Widow Age 67 Born Stalbton (?) Cumbria
Sarah Daughter Age 22 Dressmaker Born Seaham Harbour
Phoebe Reed Granddaughter Age 15 Born Seaham Harbour
Emmanuel Reed Grandson Age11 Born Seaham Harbour
Rachel Reed Granddaughter Age 9 Born Hetton Co. Durham
Edith Reed Granddaughter Age 7 Born Hetton Co. Durham – wife of JT
Nora Reed Granddaughter Age 4 Born Hetton Co. Durham
Marriage: Easington District No. 29407.1
Location: New Seaham Church: Christ Church Religion: Anglican Date: 24.9.21.
Joseph Tizard son of Joseph Tizard to Edith Reed daughter of William Reed (deceased)
The Suvla Bay Landing; W E 10.9.15.
Lance Corporal Joseph Tizard of the 6th Btn. Yorkshire Regiment, whose parents reside at 11 School Street New Seaham, writing from hospital at Southampton, gives some interesting glimpses of the Suvla Bay Landing. He says:-
“We went into action on 6th August. We left – Island about 6pm and made our way to Suvla Bay. We just reached the beach when we were met by a rain of bullets. I may tell you that the Yorks had the honour of making the first charge. When we heard the bullets whizzing we all dropped flat until we got the order to advance. We were under heavy rifle fire all the time but our lads seemed to be eager for it and gave a good account of themselves. At the first charge we forced the Turks to retire. We went on attacking until about noon on the Saturday. I think the Turks’ big guns are very poor shots. for while the 10th Division were coming up to relieve us they were under fire the whole time but never lost a man. We advanced about 2 ˝ miles before it broke daylight. We were attacking all day on Sunday and advanced a little. Between Sunday night and Monday morning the Turks’ snipers were very busy and kept hitting a man here and there. For three solid hours we lay on the ground, heads pressed down, and if any of us had just shown our heads we would have been hit. The Turks are rotten shots, but their snipers are deadly and very cunning. Two of the snipers who were killed had our tunics and helmets on. After safely getting through an open space and I had just dropped into cover a bullet grazed my cheek and brought blood. It was nothing but about five minutes later another bullet hit me in the leg and I was put out of action. I was taken down to the beach and put on a hospital ship.” SWN
The Suvla Bay Landing;
The words of Lance Corporal Joseph Tizard, re the Suvla Bay Landings, are fascinating. It’s all extraordinarily gung ho! Quite the opposite to what you get from the official war history, where it is clear that the Battalion suffered incredible losses. For instance, all the officers who landed with the Battalion were either killed or wounded in the first fourteen days. The disembarking strength of the Battalion was twenty-five officers and 750 other ranks. By the 22nd of August the Battalion was down to only 285 men and no officers. Ed Nicholl YRMW
Londonderry Papers (Malcolm Dillon Correspondence) DCRO
August 26th 1915
Dear Lady Londonderry,
The following is a candidate for admittance to Seaham Hall Convalescent Hospital:-
Lance Corporal J. Tizard 14883 6th Yorkshire Regiment.
He is now in the Highfield Hall Hospital Southampton. He worked at Seaham Colliery.
Believe me your Ladyship’s faithfully
Malcolm Dillon
The Honourable the Marchioness of Londonderry
Londonderry House
D/LO/C/ 277/83(120)
The Green Howards Museum:
The Green Howards Museum has a spread sheet which lists every occurrence of a name in the Green Howards Gazette for the First World War. They were kind enough to let me have a copy of this. (over 30,000 entries !). From this spreadsheet:-
L/Cpl J. Tizard 14883 of 6th Btn was reported wounded in the October 1915 issue of the Gazette (though this won’t be the date of wounding).
Cpl J. Tizard 14883 was next reported wounded in December 1916
Lance Corporal J.H. Tizard 33994 was reported missing in June 1918 and then as a POW in November 1918.
I would imagine these two men are the same person. The change in regimental number would, presumably, have come about as he was transferred to a different Battalion. (my presumption may not be correct)
Although I have a list of all the Yorkshire Regiment POW’s, with their data, unfortunately the name Tizard does not appear on this list Ed Nichol YRMW
*NB The October 1918 Absent Voters List for Seaham Colliery includes the following entry:-
No. 3568 Tizard Joseph 11 School Street 636615 Private RAMC
This could be Joseph Junior who transferred to the RAMC from 6th Yorks or his father J Tizard Senior.
P&D
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+*Tizard (Tyzard) Joseph Senior: Private 536615 RAMC (formerly 861 Rifle Brigade)
Address: 11 School Street Seaham Colliery
Commemorated:
The Marquess of Londonderry Roll of Honour for Seaham Colliery includes the name Tizard J. Sen.
Medal Index:
British War Medal: Victory Medal
1891 Census Seaham Colliery:
Tyzard 9 Post Office Street
Robert Head Age 18 Colliery Banksman Born New Seaham
Isabella Mother Widow Age 59 Born Wallsend
Joseph W. Button Nephew Age 11 Born Seaham Harbour
Joseph Tyzard Brother Married Age 21 Engine Fireman Born Seaham Harbour
Mary Tizard Sister-in-law Age 22 Born Seaham Harbour
Isabella Tizard Niece Age 1 Born New Seaham
Elizabeth Tizard Niece Age 5 months Born New Seaham
1901 Census Easington District: (RG13/4690 – Folio 147 – Page 19)
Tyzard 29 Frances Street No. 944.10.
Joseph Head Married Age 31 Colliery Fireman Born Seaham Harbour
Mary Wife Married Age 32 Born Seaham Harbour
Isabella Daughter Age 12 Born Seaham Colliery
Elizabeth Daughter Age 10 Born Seaham Colliery
Joseph Son Age 8 Born Seaham Colliery
Jane Daughter Age 6 Born South Shields
Margaret Daughter Age 2 Born Gateshead
Mary Daughter Age 3 months Born Seaham Harbour
Commemorated:
The Marquess of Londonderry Roll of Honour for Seaham Colliery includes the names Tizard J Junior and Tizard J. Senior
*NB The October 1918 Absent Voters List for Seaham Colliery includes the following entry:-
No. 3568 Tizard Joseph 11 School Street 536615 Private RAMC
This could be Joseph Junior who transferred to the RAMC from 6th Yorks or his father J Tizard Senior. As more information has become available it seems fairly certain that Joseph Tizard Senior was a member of the RAMC.
Additional Information:
Born Seaham Harbour (a) 1870
Father of Joseph Junior – see above
Father of Mary – see Women’s index

John&Kathleen
04-05-2009, 06:58 pm
When posting a lot of text like this please let me know if you have any problems as i may need to increase the maximum limit.:D
Hi Keith,
the amount of text we posted went in no problem. It was cut and pasted from a word document. Is there a smarter way to do this or was it OK?
Regards
J&K

Keith
04-05-2009, 11:14 pm
None better than cut and paste..easy

I do have a maximum but you havn't reached it yet...keep up the good work, :D

Graeme Lacey
06-05-2009, 07:27 pm
:)Hello John and Kathleen
Just a coule of questions on the account of the Suvla Bay landings by Joseph Tizard Jnr; was this account published (newspaper, magazine) or was it a letter home. Do you know where his original writen account is?
Hpe you will be able to help.
Kind regards
Graeme

John&Kathleen
06-05-2009, 07:39 pm
Graeme.
the account was printed in the Seaham Weekly News W/E 10.9.15. If you ever get the chance to research the newspaper always go straight to the back page for local news and events. The rest of it is edits/copy from National Daily's. SWN can be researched on microfilm at Sunderland Library in Fawcett St & we think at County Hall Durham. Sorry, do not know if the original letter survived. Hope your family liked the info we posted for you.
All the best.
J&K

Graeme Lacey
07-05-2009, 09:20 pm
Hello John:) and Kathleen:)
Many thanks once again for the information.
Your information has been enjoyed and welcomed in Oslo, Malaga, Bray, Northampton, Holmfirth, Wath on Dearne, Leeds, Harrogate, Stockton On Tees and Dundee.
They all now have links to this site.
I also checked the RAMC website, Joseph Tizard Snr wasn't listed in their WW1 section - but he is now.
Kind regards
Graeme

John&Kathleen
07-05-2009, 09:32 pm
Hello John:) and Kathleen:)
Many thanks once again for the information.
Your information has been enjoyed and welcomed in Oslo, Malaga, Bray, Northampton, Holmfirth, Wath on Dearne, Leeds, Harrogate, Stockton On Tees and Dundee.
They all now have links to this site.
I also checked the RAMC website, Joseph Tizard Snr wasn't listed in their WW1 section - but he is now.
Kind regards
Graeme
Were pleased to be able to help. If you pick up any more info it would be great if you passed it on so we can include it in our data-base. Any family stories help to bring colour to them. Nothing is trivial, everything is important.
Regards
J&K

John&Kathleen
08-05-2009, 08:15 pm
For Lucy.

durhamlad
01-08-2009, 09:34 pm
John and Kathleen,
My wife has found some information on my Great Grandfather George Allen. I knew him quite well and he died aged 92 when I was 14. (1969)

He served throughout the war and was a gunner in the Durham Brigade of the Royal Field Artillery. He was shot in the arm and also won the Military Medal for bravery while retrieving a field gun under fire. (he said that when he was hit his arm flew back so hard he thought it was blown off)

I have posted his photograph plus a picture of his medals which is unfortunately a bit fuzzy as it was taken by an elderly relative some years ago while visiting another relative in Germany that now has them.

I have also posted some of the papers my wife recovered from the pension records on Ancestry.co.uk which included a letter from George to the records office after receiving his discharge papers in 1919. He points out an error that his MM is not recorded.

I have put the photo of the medals plus a couple of his war record papers in my albums under George Allen WW I. Would you mind having a look at the medals and seeing if you can identify the medals for me.

If you have any other information on his WW I service I'd be most grateful.

Brian Slee
01-08-2009, 10:04 pm
Hello Alan

The medals are left to right, Military Medal, 1914-15 Star (I don't think it is the 1914 star as I can't see any month scrolls above/below the centre date), The British War Medal, The Victory Medal and The Territorial Efficiency Medal.

If you want further information regarding the medals just let me know. Hope this helps.

Brian

durhamlad
02-08-2009, 01:11 am
Hello Alan

The medals are left to right, Military Medal, 1914-15 Star (I don't think it is the 1914 star as I can't see any month scrolls above/below the centre date), The British War Medal, The Victory Medal and The Territorial Efficiency Medal.

If you want further information regarding the medals just let me know. Hope this helps.

Brian

Fantastic - thanks very much Brian :):)

John&Kathleen
02-08-2009, 10:07 am
We have quite a bit on George that we will sort out and post here later. We can confirm that the star is the 1914/15 star. Other medals are as Brian mentioned.
Regards
J&K

durhamlad
02-08-2009, 04:51 pm
We have quite a bit on George that we will sort out and post here later. We can confirm that the star is the 1914/15 star. Other medals are as Brian mentioned.
Regards
J&K

Thanks guys, I look forward to it.

John&Kathleen
02-08-2009, 05:40 pm
Durhamlad.
Info we have on record for George Allen MM.

Allen George: Sergeant 760045 C Battery 250th Brigade R.F.A. (Military Medal) (post war 1666077 RFA TF)
Address: 42 Strangways Street Dawdon Colliery
AVL:
October 1918 Seaham Harbour no. 5107
Spring 1919 Seaham Harbour no. 5107
Presentation of Military Medal (At Seaham Hall Auxilliary War Hospital)
July 15th 1918
Presentation of the Military Medal to Sgt. George Allen, of 42 Strangways St. Dawdon, by the Matron, owing to the regretted & unavoidable absence of the Dowager Marchioness of Londonderry.
Military Medal awarded Oct. 1917, for the following gallant action.
“The Battery due to receive rations was being worked by two Gunners, one NCO the others having been drawn, on account of the heavy fire placed on that position for a fortnight. Twice these rations had been sent up with other NCO’s, they failed to reach the position. A volunteer was called for. Sgt Allen, (then Corporal,) volunteered. Whilst he was going “in,” he had a wheeldriver, & two wheelhorses wounded; which forced him to call a halt, take his wheeldriver out of the saddle, escort him back so far, & hand him over to the R.A.M.C. man. Corporal Allen then returned to his team, got into the empty wheeldrivers saddle, & leading his own horse reached the Battery. He took out his wounded horses, & replaced them with two foot horses, from the other team – sent his two teams out at 100 yds interval, with instructions to halt at a safe place – he dressed one wounded horse, then followed the teams, leading his own horse & the two wounded ones - back to safety.”
C. D.O. Grange Major RAMC Northd War Hospital
K.E. Mosley Matron
SEAHAM HALL HOSPITAL
SHHVB
Commemorated:
Marquess of Londonderry Roll of Honour for Dawdon Colliery. (NS)
Additional Information:
DofB 9th March 1879
Miner
Married
Discharged 23.3.19.
Attested TF 3.7.21.
P&D
*NB Post war service papers have survived

Photos in next post in a few minutes.

Regards
John & Kathleen

John&Kathleen
02-08-2009, 05:46 pm
Photos as promised. Presentation of MM to George Allen at Seaham Hall Hospital. We have had to compress them to post them. If you PM your e-mail we can send you full sized photos.
Regards
J&K

durhamlad
02-08-2009, 09:38 pm
John and Kathleen,

What can I say - this is wonderful, I am so grateful, this is far more information than I ever dreamed we would get. I'll pm you with my e-mail.

:):):):)

John&Kathleen
03-08-2009, 07:28 am
:)We're pleased to be able to share with you & forum pals. If you come across anything else please let us know so that we can update our records
Regards
J&K

anniew
23-08-2009, 05:41 am
Hi John & Kathleen, I've been reading with interest your Great War Anthology Project, and wondered if you had any information on a few of my relations. My grandfather James Marsden was a miner but he was in the war from nearly the beginning as he was stated as absent in France when his son was baptized in 1915, but I was always told that he suffered from gas poisoning but have nothing to back it up. His wife was Mary Ann Williams and two of her brothers died in the war, John William Williams and Edward Williams and a brother-in-law, Thomas Doyle. Do you have any information on any of these people. I have information I have downloaded from the CWGC but that is all.
Thank you
Annie

John&Kathleen
23-08-2009, 06:15 am
Anniew.
First of all welcome to the forum.
We will check out our records and post what we have in a day or two. The W's may take a while longer as we had a misshap and will have to go through all of Kathleen's paper records & tapes to find the 2 Williams lads.
Regards
John & Kathleen